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  July 15th Study Edition Is Up..

  by confusedteenager in

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  not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.

  they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.

  of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6aRCa8lrE

  Want to know how the WTBS gets away with it?

  Enjoy the music!
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  July 15th Study Edition Is Up..

  by confusedteenager in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.

  they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.

  of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .

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  I thought baptism was a dedication to God

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to this description, unless the elders determine that you really want to be a member of the watchtower corporation, then you are not worthy of dedicating your life to god.. .

  w98 3/13 dedication and freedom of choice p.17 par.18.

  before a person can qualify to become one of jehovahs witnesses, he must meet scriptural qualifications.

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  I wonder what would happen if someone that was studying, going tothe meetings & service DID NOT go thru "the questions," went to an assembly & got baptized....
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  Racist ideas still present in the org.

  by sosoconfused in

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  2. experiences

  another thread on this board recalled to my mind the various thoughts and ideas in this organization that are still very prevelant among many.. .

  for instance i already mentioned the late 70's to early 80's segregation in the kingdom halls, but in the 90's clear through to now for instance:.

  at bethel in the mid 90's if you listened to or were found with rap music you were gone, no questions asked.

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  I was surprised to learn (when a couple from the west coast moved to the south to serve where the need was greater) that the congregation in the south had separation in the K Hall... Blacks on one side, white, the other. This was 15? years ago... This couple didn't notice right away, went out in service w/blacks, riled things up, and changed the way things were done... innocently. I was raised a JW and thought all JWs were not prejudiced to each other. I wasn't. I was surprised, and it was a shake up for me that it could still be happening, even in that "modern world," let alone be it a "JW world."
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  Tech 49: My Tripping Point, Part 2

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after reading some of your other posts and experiences, especially regarding the elder's school, i am reminded of part 2 of my experience down the rabbit hole.. the last elder's school i attended was in 2011. i remember vividly the 3 day event.

  i remember vividly being bored out of my mind!.

  as has been stated by others, the hours of monotone counsel and examples and experiences were continually beating on your brain with the usual stuff:.

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  You will be so glad you did "tip." It is hard to live with hypocrisy, it wrenches your soul... especially, like sooo many of us, we always thought it soooo wrong to be "a hypocrite," we'd be like the Pharisees. "We" try so hard to be honest, even giving the penny overpaid for change at the store. When you actually see the inner workings, the inner people, the RBC, the CO's, the J.C.'s, etc, you know it is nothing like Jesus taught or was. My husband was an elder also, and it does take adjusting, you have given so much of your life to what you thought was doing what was right. We always feel better when we listen to our conscience.
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  Get Your Teeth Cleaned ... Armageddon is NOT Imminent!!!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have had bad teeth my whole life..... but..... armageddon was imminent!.

  i am in my late 50's... .

  we were told, "don't get an education, by the time you get out of school, you won't be able to use your education.".

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  thank you all for your commiserations and suggestions, I will consider them ALL! It's kind of nice to know one still has friends :-)
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  Get Your Teeth Cleaned ... Armageddon is NOT Imminent!!!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have had bad teeth my whole life..... but..... armageddon was imminent!.

  i am in my late 50's... .

  we were told, "don't get an education, by the time you get out of school, you won't be able to use your education.".

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  Thank you so much, Lois, I really appreciate your input.

  I have "tartar" close to the gumline on two teeth. My dentist wants to pull a tooth (the one with the cap & tartar) and maybe put an implant in...

  She wants "deep cleaning" on my whole mouth, tho I am not sure my whole mouth needs it. I had some 6,5,6 gum spaces on maybe 6 or 7 teeth. I was told you can't improve your gums, they "won't grow back." But can you get them healthy again? Make them 2's and 3's again?

  I have been reading online, and there is soo much info.

  I think I will get another opinion before having things done. Dentist's are not people I trust. One drilled a hole between my two back teeth so that I could floss between them... or something like that. Turns out he did that to my husband, my son, and his secretary too!! His $800 specialty! & that is the tooth my dentist wants to pull.

  She doesn't want to give me dentures...

  Thank you again.... :-)
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  Whats the most damning of the July 15 2013 changes?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lot of the rank and file at the meetings seem to think some of the changes make more sense but what is the most damning of the changes that may help to wake to some up.

  some thing the rank and file will not first see or understand as a big deal?.

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  Caleb's Airplane: "Besides, who else is preaching the Good News?"

  Exactly! Works like a charm every time.

  "Sure, there are pedophiles, but who else is preaching the Good News?..

  Even the pedophiles are preaching the Good News!"
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  Get Your Teeth Cleaned ... Armageddon is NOT Imminent!!!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have had bad teeth my whole life..... but..... armageddon was imminent!.

  i am in my late 50's... .

  we were told, "don't get an education, by the time you get out of school, you won't be able to use your education.".

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  cha ching

  I have had bad teeth my whole life..... BUT..... Armageddon was imminent!

  I am in my late 50's...

  We were told, "Don't get an education, by the time you get out of school, you won't be able to use your education."

  So did I get braces? no... not until I was in my 40's... If I had gotten them as a teenager, my teeth would have been spaced evenly, I could have fit floss inbetween, and had less decay....

  I always thought, "Oh well, it costs sooo much money, I'll just wait, Armageddon will be here before I have to deal with it"

  You will have to deal with it....and you might lose your teeth. I brush and floss, but I have crowns, etc... you can get build up under them. My dentist showed me pictures of the tartar... It made me cry.

  I have a $17,000 bill facing me...... but, I will be able to eat!

  Get your teeth cleaned regularly... (which means at least ONCE, if not twice a year)
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  What problem did being a JW leave with your personality?

  by frogonmytoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and i don't (necessarily) mean a religious or spiritual one.. for example, i think the traces of guilt and paranoia i often fight with come from being a born-in, but my biggest issue by far is not being able to live in the moment.. i have listened to the power of now audiobook (and eckhart tolle's voice put me to sleep) so i read it instead.

  i have read other self-help books, most of them buddhist in leaning, but i still find it hard to stop thinking only in the future (thanks to the great trib, armageddon), or in the past (jesus, flood, 1914 being responsible for that).

  and whilst i no longer believe the big a is looming, and barely give anything else a second thought, my behaviour has projected itself, and i still find it difficult just to 'be' in the moment, enjoying and savouring what i'm doing, and doing it to the best of my ability, i'm forever thinking what is coming up, and what i did badly last time.. my sister said the last time i visited her that she felt like she was waiting for something to happen "but not like armageddon, something else".

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  Me? I always have been a "person" person... even being friendly to people I meet at the store, etc.

  However, deciding when to "get closer" / have them to your house for dinner? I still wonder "will they rob me?" (even tho I have been "robbed" by JW's in business... ) I have a new job, and after a year or so, am getting to know the people there, and have been to dinner, they are very nice, and I have high hopes.

  My sister? she use to be afraid of dying... every day... Armageddon is today! tomorrow! She has a hard time thinking of "future." Tho she does, she could be mad at "no health insurance, no pension, working until she is 80."

  My husband? He feels like he has to do more, more, more. Has he done enough? Is he working at his best? What else should he be doing? He has a hard time just "enjoying the moment."